Make PvE Great (again)

[Madofado]

This is kind of based off Solar’s other suggestion:

Boss damage scale with health

As you’re aware, bosses in PvE have roughly ~60 - 70k more health per player because of HP Scaling, meaning when there’s 10 or more players on PvE, bosses like Duke Fishron or Empress of Light will have 800k - 1.4m HP. Pair this with the Damage increase they have from a fairly recent silent update, Duke Fishron will always do 275 - 325 Damage per hit. Empress of Light will always do 450 - 1200 Damage per hit. I was thinking since bosses will usually have higher health that the damage should be …

So, at least according to Mathematics of the Economy, PvE gives a very low amount of DP and a slight amount of XP. Here is the current table:

@popstarfreas

NPC Multipliers

NPC	XP	DP
King Slime	x0.002	x0.002
Eye of Cthulhu	x0.002	x0.002
Skeletron	x0.002	x0.002
Duke Fishron	x0.5	x3
Empress of Light	x0.2	x150
Wall of Flesh	x0.2	x1
Wall of Flesh Eye	x0.2	x1

I’m not sure if this is entirely still accurate, but here’s my suggested changes.

NPC/Boss	XP	DP
King Slime	x0.05	x0.05
Eye of Cthulu	x0.05	x0.05
Eater of Worlds	x0.05	x0.05
Brain of Cthulu	x0.05	x0.05
Queen Bee	x0.1	x0.1
Skeletron	x0.2	x0.2
Wall of Flesh (total)	x0.2	x4
Queen Slime	x20	x2
The Twins	x0.2	x2
Skeletron Prime	x0.2	x2
The Destroyer	x0.2	x3
Plantera	x0.2	x5
Golem	x0.2	x4
Duke Fishron	x0.5	x10
Moon Lord	x10	x50
Empress of Light	x0.2	x150

I think 1. the Economy guide is outdated, and 2. that I’m not entirely sure what all of this means (pretty sure I don’t get 0.002 XP every King Slime kill?), so everything here is probably kind of inaccurate or subject to change.

[FAdadadada]

@Madofado

1. the Economy guide is outdated

The only part of it that seems outdated is the Zombies section. Every other section is fine.

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@Madofado

2. that I’m not entirely sure what all of this means (pretty sure I don’t get 0.002 XP every King Slime kill?)

@popstarfreas

Reward Table

Action	XP	DP
Mob Kill	0	0
Mob Damage Dealt	0	0
Boss Kill	0	0.5
Boss Damage Dealt	damage * 0.01	damage * 0

In PvE, you get XP per damage dealt to a boss.

Let’s say you deal 20k DPS to King Slime, which has a DP multiplier of 0.002.

\text {20,000 Damage per Second} \times 0.01 \times 0.002 = \text {0.4 XP per Second}

Keep in mind that the sign command in PvE summons multiple King Slimes.

[Madofado]

@FAdadadada

In PvE, you get XP per damage dealt to a boss.

I didn’t know this because the NPC table itself only has values, without explanation.

@FAdadadada

The only part of it that seems outdated is the Zombies section. Every other section is fine.

I think PvP is outdated too

[FAdadadada]

@Madofado

@FAdadadada

The only part of it that seems outdated is the Zombies section. Every other section is fine.

I think PvP is outdated too

I’m sure the PvP part is fine too, so how’s it outdated?

[Madofado]

Doesn’t each player kill give 1 DP instead of 0.1 now?

[FAdadadada]

How much DP do you have?

[Madofado]

I had 2k, but I spent it on an inventory upgrade. Right now I think I have around 150, but the reason I thought it was 1 DP per kill was because it went up by about the number of players I killed every time I played PvP.

[FAdadadada]

@popstarfreas

Earn Multipliers

The daily gain limit is 2000 DP and resets at the same time for everyone every 24 hours. Currently there is no specific time of the day. Once you’ve earned 2000 DP in the current 24 hour period, your multiplier is set to 0, and is reset when the next period begins.

If the player has more than 5000 DP then the following applies:

earnMultiplier(bank)=5000/(bank∗10)

That means if you have 10,000 DP then:

5,000/(100,000)=0.05=\text {5% multiplier}

It’s way harder to get DP if you have more than 5k DP in the bank.

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@popstarfreas

PvP

Reward Table

Action	XP	DP
Player Kill	100	0.1
Damage Dealt	damage * 0.6	damage * 0.001

You get DP by killing players and dealing damage. Let’s say you deal 600 damage to another player and kill them:

0.1+(600)(0.001)=\text {0.7 DP per "Kill"}

[Madofado]

I guess that would make more sense.