Build has a big problem: echo blocks. You can’t see them without spectre goggles, and when other players use them in builds, it’s not tough to accidentally break a few, which is technically against the rules, even though they’re invisible. If someone wanted to, they could completely cut off areas with them. They’re such a problem that if someone wanted to, they could stand next to someone else, place them blocking somewhere off or in an inappropriate way, and blame someone else, even if a mod was watching the entire time, and get that person banned. Plus, it’s just plain annoying to hit invisible walls.
Most builds don’t use echo blocks, and just wear spectre goggles if you really need to see it. If you somehow break it accidentally (which you don’t really need to just swing your pickaxe around while you’re visiting other builds anyway) just equip goggles and replace them. They can be useful for zombies maps and such, I don’t see why they need to be banned.
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Building obstructions also counts as griefing, and it can be considered a serious offense.
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What do you mean, building obstructions with echo blocks? That would be against the rules anyway, right?
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Yes, it would.
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@Madofado They’d still work in stuff like zombies maps just not in build. And yes, I do need to swing my pickaxe around when I’m building, because people have 100% echo builds. Plus, it’s just annoying to hot invisible blocks in the first place.
And @FAdadadada , while it would be against the rules, someone could stand next to an afk player, build it, and get them banned by claiming the other person did it, and due to the fact echo blocks are invisible, even if a mod was watching the whole time, they likely wouldn’t notice until someone told them (or they tried to move through the obstructed area), making it VERY easy for someone to frame someone else. Plus, I find it very annoying to hit invisible blocks in the first place, even if they’re part of a build.
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I think the plugin can tell who placed what blocks, so people wouldn’t get banned like this. Also, I didn’t know any 100% echo builds existed, probably because I didn’t see them. I agree that it’s confusing, but I don’t think this really is such a terrible problem that it needs to be banned, there’s no real exploit or intentional irritation other than your dislike of being confused by invisible blocks.
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what if I don’t have a plug-in
If you mean a server plug-in, idk how you check that, especially on mobile
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This is a very contrived situation. I do not think any prudent or reasonable staff member would ban, or even warn, the supposed offender. At that point, the person asserting the claim is clearly malicious and liable for a ban.
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There’s a command called /history where we can modify a tile to see who modified it in the past
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Yes but it is still possible. Besides, this is only and example anyway, I’m sure there’s many other possible and much more likely situations resulting from echo blocks. And what if instead of making a barrier they made an inappropriate build? Then things would get a lot more serious, pretty quickly. And, anyway, in a situation like this, the mod would have no idea who placed the blocks.
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This is positing that the accused player does not use alternative commands such as /spawn to avoid the destroying such builds.
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Still, someone could build something inappropriate and let it sit there for a LOT longer than someone building with normal blocks, considering that to even just see them you need a specific item that not many people use.
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Wdym by that?
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You made the argument that someone can frame another player for griefing by building around them (something that can be done with other blocks besides Echo Blocks). If this player was AFK, and they didn’t know someone has built something around them, apparently you said that it would be reasonable for them to break the build as it poses as an obstruction to them. In this scenario, why can’t that person in particular avoid the predicament by using /spawn?
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They could, but they might not realize that they’re in an echo block prison, and worse, they might have block swap on, leading them to accidentally destroy large portions of the troller’s “build”.
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0-15 block griefs aren’t bannable, so the player can realize what he’s doing and if he gets framed, the player can explain
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what if they don’t notice the dropped echo blocks
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This would also be incredibly detrimental to terrain, as it usually utilizes echo blocks to stop grass from growing or making stone walls even more decorated
They wouldn’t notice that particles came out? And still, there are 15 chances
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Again, I don’t think any prudent or reasonable admin will believe that a build entirely made of Echo Blocks that entraps another player is a “serious” build.
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